Re: [Sheflug] EMacs for mail - nearly there!!!

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <nospam [at] sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>]

>>>>> "g" == g liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski [at] ragingbull.com> writes:

    g> One thing I wasn't able to figure out when I was considering
    g> using emacs for email - does anybody know if it is possible
    g> (and how) to save outgoing messages?

Automatically, I'm not sure.  Depends on which mailer you use.  I tend
to use FCC (bound to C-c C-f C-f in most mailers) for the occasional
personal mail; most of my mail ends up going to lists and coming back
into the appropriate box.  Any of the mailers can be fairly easily set
up to add arbitrary headers.

    g> And can one work with multiple mail-folders in emacs?

Right now I only have nine open.  Most days that gets up to 14 or so
at some point during the day (I have three to-do lists that are mail
folders).

    g> I am currently using pine (as is easy to see from this email)
    g> and quite happy with it - multiple POP/IMAP-accounts, news,
    g> convenient folder-structure, multiple from-headers, and lots
    g> and lots of customisation - why on the Earth would anyone want
    g> to use anything else?:-)

The threading sucks, the internationalization sucks, it's hard to yank
and quote messages in a pleasant and polite way, the degree of
customizability is flat-out _weak_ :-), it doesn't have dunnet,
Tetris, or psychoanalyze-pinhead for those times when you've run out
of things to say, it doesn't do IRC or ICQ, it doesn't do inline audio
(well, neither does GNU Emacs) or images (neither does GNU Emacs yet),
the Help icon isn't the Hitchhiker logo, it doesn't have a web client,
it doesn't validate your SGML, you have to change to a different
application to edit directories, and it's rather difficult to edit
Pine's source code using Pine, which is the only way to do real
customization on Pine since it doesn't embed a real language..

Other than that, I wouldn't notice a thing if you did rm
/usr/bin/xemacs; ln -s pine /usr/bin/xemacs.  :-)

Emacs isn't for everybody.  If Pine does what you want it to do, it
probably is significantly easier to deal with than Emacs.  But if
Emacs does what you want it to, it's very convenient to let it do more
and more for you.  And powerful---the more you learn about the VM
mailer, the more you know about c-mode and Perl-mode and SGML.

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